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I'm On The Night-Spain, I Love That Stuff

I'm sorry, but sad Germans kind of make me giggle.

I'm sorry, but sad Germans kind of make me giggle.


It was funny, towards the end of the game today, Efan Ekoku -- whose work I like -- commented that he thought the Germans would have regrets after this loss.  He was referring to the Germans sitting back, defending, waiting for their chance on the counter.  He was alluding that they might go home tonight and wonder what might have happened if they had just gone for it from the opening whistle.

But what else can you do against Spain?  Go at them, and hope you bury every chance you have and win 6-5?  What would Xavi, Alonso, Iniesta, and Villa do with open space?  Is there any doubt they'd score four at least?  And yet, the bunker approach doesn't work either.  It would against any other side in the world.  But not every other side has pretty much a world class player at every position.  Sure, maybe Busquets isn't at that level, but he doesn't have to be.  And Pedro (whose act of silly selfishness at the end of the match will land on most people's "Most Hilarious" list) isn't either, but he was replacing someone of that level in Fernando Torres.  Simply put, against anyone for 90 minutes, Spain are eventually going to score.  Oh sure, there's the odd anomaly, like 2 out of 53.  But overall...

I'm not quite sure how Spain got replaced atop so many favorites' list by Brazil.  Sure, Brazil looked formidable, but there were questions, weren't there?  What if Fabiano took a night off?  What if Kaka maintained his Madrid form?  Got those answers, didn't we?  What questions were there about Spain?  Iker Casillas being off?  Well, there's Reina behind him if he continued, but since the opening match he's hardly put a foot wrong, as if he's had anything to do.  Puyol and Pique?  Both have been rocks, and Pique's distribution out of the back at times has been artful.  What player on Spain could go off the boil and they'd suffer?  We've seen with Torres.  Xavi?  Maybe.  But Alonso and Fabregas could make up for a lot of that, though they won't have to.

I said before the tournament that I really think this Spain team will go down with the 70's Dutch and the 1970 Brazil team as one we'll remember forever.  They'll do that for sure with a win on Sunday. 

As for the Germans, though their run was impressive, I never bought the hysteria -- though admittedly my years of American and English support leaves me a bit jaded.  After Australia, they were ordinary in the group.  They let a simply pants England side equalize (or should have) and we're actually rolled by them for about half an hour.  If Gerrard hasn't pulled a "It's me against the world so Madrid will come and save me from my impregnated teenager hell" they might have grabbed a goal that counted.  Sure, their counters against England and Argentina were something to behold, and I don't want to minimize that.  But Spain simply don't give the ball away.  Ever.  Your chances for counters are limited.  Oezil was an absentee when things got hard.  Muller's suspension showed a lack of depth.  Podolski and Klose went back to being...Podolski and Klose.  And when you have to resort to Mario Gomez when you need a goal, that spells "trouble".  Still, in two and four years time, assuming no major injuries, this team will be a problem for all.

Oh, and with Oezil, Kroos, and Lahm, did any team feature three more unfortunate looking human beings?

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Germany will spell trouble for teams in the future. however, you cannot discount the class of this Spanish team. now at least a new team will win the World Cup.

it is kind of funny now, but i wonder what will happen to all those that were on the German bandwagon. i guess it dose not matter.

maybe in Brazil 2014 the Americans will field a younger, hungrier team and we can say similar things…we can hope, can’t we?

by gdiehlc78 on Jul 7, 2010 9:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Ignorance of commentators

I don’t like football commentators or pundits at the best of times. In fact, when someone takes home an enormous paycheck for doing something I could do better for free it tends to get on my nerves. But last night took the biscuit. The number of commentators (and in particular 5Lives normally outstanding Alan Greene) who fawned over Spain and described Germany as being “totally undone”, “outplayed” and “second best” missed the point entirely. To be paid to misinform people is scandalous and any commentator or pundit caught making these claims should give back their match fee. Germany played the exact match that Germany wanted. Germany LET Spain have the ball – they wanted Spain to attack, overcommit and thereby leave themselves exposed 3 on 2 at the back when Ramos and Capdevilla when rampaging forwards. And at times it damn near nearly worked and nearly got them a goal as well. Germany got beat 1-0 by probably the only side in World Football better than them (Barcelona, fnar fnar). 1-0. That couldn’t be a closer scoreline. But no doubt all the English speaking rags will this morning be telling us all how fantastic Spain were and how dour and unimaginative Germany were. Rubbish.

And a couple of other things to bear in mind. 1. Sergio Ramos should have been sent off midway through the first half for a simply abhorrent foul in which he clearly left his foot in over the top on a German player which the lad was lucky to walk away from. It was a scandalous piece of refereeing that he wasn’t even booked. 2. Spain had a lot of chances and COULD have scored 3 or 4 against Germany, but Germany SHOULD have been awarded a penalty just before half time when Oezil was clumsily bundled over. If the scoreline at half time was 1-0 Germany, who can say what might have happened.

Personally, and not just because I predicted the Dutch to win the tournament back in January, I hope the dutch beat Spain on Sunday night.

by Jamie Douglas on Jul 8, 2010 2:12 AM PDT reply actions  

There's One On The Wagon

You are right that a penalty COULD have been called at the end of the first half against Spain…but it wasn’t. just like the American attackers COULD have scored one of the many chances that they had against Ghana in regulation during the round of 16 game and put us into the quarterfinals…but they didn’t. looks like you know soccer, so you know this is just par for the course.

whoever wins on Sunday, don’t you just want to see a great game? aren’t both sides deserving to lift the trophy?

by gdiehlc78 on Jul 8, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Could've, should've, would've
You are right that a penalty COULD have been called at the end of the first half against Spain…but it wasn’t. just like the American attackers COULD have scored one of the many chances that they had against Ghana in regulation during the round of 16 game and put us into the quarterfinals…but they didn’t. looks like you know soccer, so you know this is just par for the course.

You are of course right, but it’s one thing to miss your own chances (i.e. could’ve), and quite another to be denied that chance by the officials after a foul (i.e. should’ve). It’ll also never be known if Germany would even have converted from 12 yards had it been given (although you gotta suspect they would’ve).

The one interesting thing the commentators did point out during the game last night is that in the modern game, when you get two very fit, very able and very well drilled sides, there very often isn’t even a cigarette paper between them. In games such as these, the referees need as much assistance to get as many decisions correct as possible. Germany knew they weren’t going to get many chances against Spain unless they scored first, so what they were relying on was taking one of their few chances while preventing Spain from taking the many chances they would inevitably create. In this instance their best chance was denied them by a poor piece of refereeing. FIFA have said they’re now prepared to at least discuss video technology being used, although I find it hard to believe they’ll do an about turn on the issue, but this is another example of a team being penalised by a poor decision, and in a World Cup semi final no less.

whoever wins on Sunday, don’t you just want to see a great game? aren’t both sides deserving to lift the trophy?

Of course. I want to see a great match, and I’d like the best team to win. Certainly Spain can be thought of as the better side in their semi-final, but I think that misses the point of football, or sport in general. The best teams aren’t always deserving to win, and often a team of weaker resources can prevail by better tactics, superior team play, or by having more “nerve”. Doubtless Barcelona were the “better” team in their Champions League semi final this season, but they were beaten because Inter Milan bested them in exactly these areas. It might not have been pretty, but it was deserving of victory.

Equally, I get fed up of listening to all the Spanish fan-boys wax lyrical about how omnipotent Spain are, when the truth is that while they might have the best players that doesn’t give them a divine right to win the world cup. If Holland play a defensive, organised and disciplined match on Sunday and win, will that be any less deserving than if Spain tear them apart with an awesome display of attacking football? Only on a superficial level.

by Jamie Douglas on Jul 8, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lets not also forget that Germany were robbed of Mueller for this game by an awful piece of officiating.

by GKINMD on Jul 8, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno

Were you not disappointed by the German passing. Their lightning counter from the previous two games was gone. In their few counter opportunities, they missed on simple passes that were not being pressured by the defense. You’re right in that they were sitting back, but I thought they didn’t look sharp at all.

by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 8, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

Yeah, I was a little disappointed by some of the German play. I think there were 3 main factors there. Firstly, and let’s make it clear, Spain are a very good side. They know what they’re doing, which is more than Argentina could muster, and they’ve got quality players all over the park which is more than can be said for England. Secondly, the Germans spent a lot of time attacking down their right flank, which was a tactic used in previous matches, leaving Podolski free to cause havoc at the back post. Unfortunately the suspension of Mueller meant they had first a wasteful Trochowski then an ill Kroos on the right, which scuppered their plans. Finally, as I think Sam mentions in the main article, this is a very young German side. They’ve got this far partly on ability, partly on the exuberance of youth. The downside of that is that any nerves are exemplified in knockout football, and in that one off match some of those players froze. Frankly, Puyol was granted the freedom of Durban to head in the winner, which means someone didn’t track him, which was an error and can be attributed to panic in that young German team. Shame really.

by Jamie Douglas on Jul 8, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

This match was about one disciplined side meeting another disciplined side, but in terms of skill the Spaniards were a level above the Germans. Not to mention, Xavi and Iniesta have been partnering each other in Barcelona week in week out, and the rapport developed between them served the Spanish side well in controlling the midfield. Also, when Spain lost possession they turned defensive immediately, which probably explained why Germany’s few attempts at counterattacking looked relatively harmless.

by perfectango on Jul 9, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

The thing is, the German manager had stated before the game that they intended to attack Spain, just as they had done throughout the tournament. After the game Villa was asked about Germany sitting back and he commented that maybe they didn’t sit back by choice, but rather were forced to sit back. Bastien Schwienteger (spl!) looked absolutely done by the end of the game.
As well, Spain had about 70% of possession when the game was tied. They were clearly the better side out there, and were always the more likely to score.
I really don’t think Spain’s defense gets the credit it deserves.

by DarrenV on Jul 9, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spain

They are both enjoyable and frustrating to watch. They string together so many beautiful passes, but dear god, shoot the ball when you are inside 18 yards. They pass up to many chances to put a ball on frame.

I thought Germany was too passive and gave Spain too much respect. I expect the Dutch to be much more physical with Spain. I’m no tactician, but I think the Dutch can do to Spain what Inter did to Barcelona in the Champions League.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

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by Esteban d' Amur on Jul 8, 2010 7:44 AM PDT reply actions  

My brother doesn't watch too much football....

And watching Spain, he noted that its like they want to dribble the ball into the net, never having heard the cliche before. Nailed it.

by Stoned Slacker on Jul 9, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

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